Chat : 4 Feb 2022

Video and transcript:

16:07:05 From Peter Wasilko : Good Morning! Looking sharp, Frode!
16:07:34 From Frode Hegland : Morning Peter
16:09:15 From Mark Anderson :
16:12:39 From Peter Wasilko :
16:13:28 From Frode Hegland : Hi Brandel
16:13:57 From Brandel Zachernuk : Hi Frode!
16:15:00 From Frode Hegland : We are talking a bit on Brande;
16:16:12 From Brandel Zachernuk : Ah excellent! I was talking a bit to Maggie recently, after Joel Spolsky’s post on web data components – she’s joined that team and supplied the diagrams for the explainer
16:16:55 From Mark Anderson : The guys I was mentioning are Beth Cardier and Ted Goranson
16:17:27 From Frode Hegland : Excellent. Peter suggested it might be compatible with Visual-Meta to some degree
16:18:39 From Peter Wasilko :
16:20:27 From Mark Anderson : Short paper by Ted Goranson at Hypertext 2015
16:21:58 From Peter Wasilko : 978-0230-10365-8
16:22:37 From Peter Wasilko : “The Future of Decision Making: How Revolutionary Software Can Improve the Ability to Decide”
16:22:54 From Peter Wasilko : Roger C. Schank, Dimitris Lyras, and Elliot Soloway
16:23:22 From Peter Wasilko : 2010
16:34:58 From Brandel Zachernuk : That is an excellent royal wave
16:35:11 From Frode Hegland : Trying to be mirroring my yellow hand..
16:35:26 From Peter Wasilko : I always suspected Mark had Royal blood.
16:35:36 From Frode Hegland : Royal Navy Blood!
16:39:01 From Mark Anderson : Sorry, my connection dropped off. Back now.
16:40:05 From Frode Hegland : “You have to buy this because it lets you do…”
16:40:39 From Frode Hegland : I do think standing cockpit design is the mental way to go, at least initially
16:42:18 From Mark Anderson : Has anyone tried making Ted Nelson’s zigzag in 3D/VR?
16:43:18 From Brandel Zachernuk : I was talking yesterday to a technologist, Gray Crawford, about the grudging necessity to finally try it out properly
16:45:10 From Frode Hegland : Map an environment and map a shape with connections. Digital Library, yes, AR Finder, or as Bruce made iFIle 🙂
16:47:04 From Brandel Zachernuk :
16:49:52 From Frode Hegland : So here is a basic question then, when we tell our friend who asked us whether they should buy the expensive Apple AR device, what would we like to be able to tell our friend they will be able to do? Find, view, connect and compose right?
16:51:11 From Frode Hegland : Page count thickness, citations, maybe strands hanging out? Etc. 🙂
16:51:20 From Mark Anderson : Maxime Cordeil
16:56:51 From Peter Wasilko : And bookmarks poking out of the tops of books!
16:58:59 From Brandel Zachernuk : I haven’t tried to hit, but this parses and processes Gutenberg texts:
17:01:42 From Brendan Langen : hey, sorry about the in + out nature today, tech issues led into actual home issues!

able to hear everything, at the very least…but i’m running around trying to fix the heat.
17:01:50 From Frode Hegland : ok
17:02:03 From Peter Wasilko : I wonder if there will be drugs some day that negate sim sickness to allow now unthinkable visual gymnastics. “It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.”
17:15:10 From Peter Wasilko : MIT Press at a volume on automatic summarization.
17:15:22 From Peter Wasilko : Let me duck back out to my library….
17:16:08 From Peter Wasilko : back
17:16:24 From Peter Wasilko : 0-262=-13359-8
17:16:45 From Peter Wasilko : Advances in Automatic Text Summarization
17:16:55 From Mark Anderson : Thanks!
17:17:18 From Peter Wasilko : Inderjeet Mani and Mart T. Maybury
17:18:03 From Peter Wasilko : That one was on a low shelf without need to recourse to the step ladder!
17:20:41 From Peter Wasilko : There is a LaTeX package to add a descriptive burb to TOC entries!
17:24:11 From Mark Anderson : @Peter, which package?
17:24:50 From Brandel Zachernuk :
17:25:24 From Mark Anderson : ^^ title of above “Walter Ong – Oral Cultures and Early Writing”
17:27:22 From Peter Wasilko : @Mark, I’ll have to dig up my custom LaTeX textbook class file and go through it to look for the package name. I know I used the functionality about 2 years ago.
17:27:45 From Mark Anderson : Thanks.
17:28:59 From Brandel Zachernuk : Regarding Tables of Contents, I am impressed by the impact of the left-navigation on desktop at Wikiwand:
17:29:53 From Brendan Langen : need to dip out. will do a bit of thinking on a refined table/map of contents as a VR demo.

enjoy your weekends, gentlemen.
17:30:39 From Frode Hegland : Bye for now
17:32:13 From Peter Wasilko : It may have been the tocloft package.
17:32:35 From Peter Wasilko : \cftchapterprecistoc{text}
17:33:15 From Peter Wasilko :
17:36:11 From Mark Anderson : Sorry, trying to find the book.
17:36:38 From Peter Wasilko : We are making lots of library excursions today!
17:47:08 From Peter Wasilko : How about the ultimate personal humanities scholar’s digital notebook?
18:05:34 From Frode Hegland : How about talking with Maggie Appleton about visual-meta and blocks integration for packaging (presentation: Cover and table of contents, glossary, etc. collaboration?
18:14:24 From Frode Hegland : I will put up solar system to scale in the garden. Maybe also timeline.
18:15:26 From Peter Wasilko : A tennis ball is probably too big at that scale!
18:16:02 From Peter Wasilko : It is scary how spread out the solar system is.
18:16:06 From Mark Anderson : Looks like “The Void” did go bust. Lots of references to it, but no web presence for the company itself.
18:16:08 From Frode Hegland : It really is Peter
18:19:08 From Frode Hegland : Bye Peter, have a good weekend!

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