Chat : 7 Feb 2022

Video and transcript: https://futuretextlab.info/2022/02/08/tr-7-jan-2022-2/

16:20:41 From Mark Anderson : ‘must’ as in ‘must name’ is effectively modal (i.e. hard stop until resolved), which comes with some cognitive load.
16:30:19 From Peter Wasilko : @Brandel, if you have any references to 3-D layout system, we might want to add them as a resource on the website.
16:31:12 From Brandel Zachernuk : This is a 2D one: https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Harel-Koren-fast-multiscale-algorithm-graph-for-the-groups_fig5_316988772
16:31:30 From Brandel Zachernuk : It’s one of the popular presets for systems like NetLogo: https://ccl.northwestern.edu/netlogo/
16:33:35 From Peter Wasilko : We can also use a Reference Counting system to know if we need to keep something around in the system because others are using it.
16:34:13 From Peter Wasilko : And this doesn’t necessarily imply letting the uploader know WHO is using/referencing it.
16:36:19 From Peter Wasilko : Just send us its True Name.
16:37:23 From Peter Wasilko : We need shareable ViewSpecs as standalone abstractions.
16:37:32 From Mark Anderson : Amen!
16:42:26 From Frode Hegland : Timeline info!
16:45:30 From Frode Hegland : Peter, have you noted your thought, can you pause it a bit longer?
16:45:40 From Peter Wasilko : Sure
16:45:46 From Frode Hegland : Thanks! 🙂
16:47:15 From Mark Anderson : Timeline is ‘just’ (never say ‘just’) a viewspec. Point being implicit in referring to Timeline as an example is how do view(specs) advertise their affordance to the in-VR user.
16:49:30 From Frode Hegland : Q&A people in meeting then auto VM Q&A for that document!
16:50:49 From Peter Wasilko : Do see: https://www.engines4ed.org/hyperbook/nodes/NODE-358-pg.html
16:50:53 From Frode Hegland : It’s also data!
16:51:00 From Frode Hegland : Glossary terms fx
16:51:31 From Frode Hegland : Nice Peter, thanks for that link
16:51:40 From Frode Hegland : And you go next please Peter!
16:52:02 From Peter Wasilko : I think it and the connected nodes are directly on point for your last observations!
16:52:19 From Frode Hegland : Hazlas 7 issues. Who is working on which? Example of list which is then referred back to 🙂
16:57:10 From Frode Hegland : Can we start ‘playing’ with Ted Nelson visible links as part of this?
17:06:19 From Mark Anderson : & issues map
17:06:48 From Mark Anderson : ^^ This is made from a Tinderbox doc so I have this an implicit hypertext.
17:06:54 From Frode Hegland : Nice Mark, would be nice to auto make these charts based on who refers how
17:07:02 From Mark Anderson : & → &
17:07:27 From Frode Hegland : & → & ?
17:07:44 From Mark Anderson : Try again & → 7
17:09:40 From Frode Hegland : China.
17:31:51 From Frode Hegland : https://www.scholarcy.com
17:33:38 From Peter Wasilko : https://www.ebay.com/itm/Fair-Management-Story-Century-of-Progress-Worlds-Fair-Chicago-Lenox-R-Lohr-/392327343043
17:34:43 From Peter Wasilko : I liked Mark’s “Unpopulated Endpoint” formulation for the 35 Foot long list of Fair To Do’s.
17:40:27 From Peter Wasilko : https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.91.4747&rep=rep1&type=pdf
17:41:44 From Mark Anderson : ^^ Sadly VKB’s installers were lost and is now effectively dead, unless a Java 1.0 enthusiast wants to get stuck in.
17:43:18 From Peter Wasilko : I might have a CD-ROM with a version of them somewhere in my early holdings.
17:44:06 From Mark Anderson : Ooh! History might thank you. Email me if you.
17:44:10 From Peter Wasilko : But I have countless cases of shovelware discs from that era.
17:44:34 From Peter Wasilko : I’ll try to dig it up.
17:44:54 From Mark Anderson : 👍
17:45:34 From Mark Anderson : I’m bummed I lost my FutureSplash v1.0 CD. Early adopter.
17:46:37 From Brandel Zachernuk : https://vimeo.com/232230096
17:46:42 From Brandel Zachernuk : Ken Perlin:​ Chalktalk in Augmented Reality
17:47:05 From Brandel Zachernuk : https://github.com/kenperlin/chalktalk
17:50:32 From Peter Wasilko : I like writing and building demos.
17:51:32 From Brandel Zachernuk : https://zachernuk.neocities.org/autodictate
17:51:39 From Peter Wasilko : I need to bow out at the top of the hour.
17:52:02 From Frode Hegland : Yes, here too
17:54:46 From Mark Anderson :
17:56:05 From Frode Hegland : ‘SF’
18:03:20 From Brandel Zachernuk : https://archive.org/details/mappinghypertext0000horn/page/n5/mode/2up

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