Chat : 12 August 2022

Video: https://youtu.be/J0_AA62NCy8

16:18:31 From Mark Anderson : Yay! Make the past come alive.
16:18:45 From Frode Hegland : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DEuNHX9lxTlgJh_1LeRbiifQavgIkRrHldoIV5XT7pQ/edit?usp=sharing
16:23:33 From Mark Anderson : Metadata to the fore again!
16:26:53 From Mark Anderson : For agenda after Author, I’d like to ask the group re soe points arising from my recent looking into re-purposing docs like bob’s murals.
16:28:05 From Mark Anderson : Understanding ‘filing systems’ is apparently already an ‘old school’ concept.
16:55:13 From Frode Hegland : Brandel and Alan, we are just going through Author for a bit. 75% done I think
16:58:41 From Fabien Benetou : Was a quote https://twitter.com/utopiah/status/1552665767417724930
16:59:55 From Mark Anderson : Web link/anchors and what is shown is an ongoing problems for print vs (web-style) rendered text.
17:05:22 From Mark Anderson : I’ve found, by experience (and shouty feedback) that a reverse loop-up is a best fit for a ‘start’ page for finding shortcuts. Examples (from my aTbRef for Tinderbox): https://www.acrobatfaq.com/atbref9/index/KeyboardShortcuts/ReverseLook-upMap.html
17:16:18 From Peter Wasilko : Reading it now!
17:18:34 From Frode Hegland : This PDF is the intro (draft) to the next Future of Text book
17:25:37 From Peter Wasilko : Here is another notebook project: https://github.com/ilse-langnar/notebook
17:28:24 From Frode Hegland : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DEuNHX9lxTlgJh_1LeRbiifQavgIkRrHldoIV5XT7pQ/edit?usp=sharing
17:28:43 From Frode Hegland : https://constructivelabs.com
17:33:29 From Alan Laidlaw : i have to run
17:33:37 From Frode Hegland : l8tr
17:33:39 From Fabien Benetou : I have aging on my wiki pages too
17:33:45 From Frode Hegland : nice
17:33:57 From Fabien Benetou : random binary strings to show that its most likely outdated
17:35:20 From Frode Hegland : Can we make Visual-Meta work on this?
17:35:49 From Frode Hegland : As image map
17:36:06 From Frode Hegland : oh. Bob’s gone
17:36:10 From Peter Wasilko : Here is an intriguing new AI as writing assistant tool: https://teamlaika.notion.site/LAIKA-FAQ-a18c83624b29420a984b8059473ec496
17:37:00 From Frode Hegland : you didn’t waste, that’s an article for the Journal!
17:37:45 From Peter Wasilko : https://www.w3schools.com/html/html_images_imagemap.asp
17:38:13 From Frode Hegland :
17:38:17 From Frode Hegland : from Peter’s link
17:47:34 From Peter Wasilko : http://thenewcode.com/760/Create-A-Responsive-Imagemap-With-SVG
17:48:24 From Frode Hegland : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TL-rrFzIEmI
17:51:28 From Peter Wasilko : https://www.image-map.net
17:53:16 From Fabien Benetou : makes me wonder if there are object recognition based tools, e.g YOLOv7, to make image maps.
17:53:37 From Frode Hegland : please speak that question Fabien, great point
17:53:52 From Fabien Benetou : e.g https://github.com/WongKinYiu/yolov7
17:54:14 From Peter Wasilko : Also GIMP can make image maps: https://docs.gimp.org/en/filters-web.html
17:54:34 From Fabien Benetou : Yes, and scripting GIMP is fun, it uses LISP.
17:55:14 From Mark Anderson : Thanks!
17:56:55 From Peter Wasilko : Or use InkScape : https://www.oneminutevideotutorials.com/2020/02/25/how-to-create-svg-image-maps-with-inkscape/
17:57:14 From Mark Anderson : Re uploading images and the inevitable AI annotation is the human in the loop. Fabien’s point is spot on. Tech to assist and present for human-processing.
17:59:01 From Mark Anderson : @Peter. Inkscape’s on my to-try list (back to the problem of install to useful operation)

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