Chat : 3 October 2022

Video: https://youtu.be/MatKElAzprY

Closed Caption: https://futuretextlab.info/2022/10/03/cc-text-3-october-2022/

17:08:38 From Fabien : audio is really linear, like video so hard to skim IMHO
17:14:35 From Peter Wasilko : Key Words in Context
17:15:26 From Peter Wasilko : Or a concordance!
17:17:53 From Frode Hegland : my surprise on doing the editing: learnt much more than live speech
17:19:41 From Frode Hegland : can only stay 1 hour 30. must drive mom to the doc
17:20:23 From Fabien : (open-source alternative we can try to inspect https://huggingface.co/bigscience/bloom )
17:21:22 From Peter Wasilko : Prediction: within six months “SEO Prompt Engineering” will be a thing!
17:22:10 From Mark Anderson : 🙂
17:23:15 From Mark Anderson : !! IOW that automated summarisation can be seen as a form of (knowledge) prototyping
17:23:16 From Frode Hegland : the related question is of course how this should go into PKM. citing/addressing. Make user have to assign title/keys?
17:24:51 From Mark Anderson : Otter.ai
17:24:52 From Alan Laidlaw : otter.ai
17:25:11 From Peter Wasilko : Groans
17:25:45 From Fabien : had limited results with it…
17:25:59 From Fabien : but was a while ago.
17:26:43 From Alan Laidlaw : the results are good, depending on what youre looking for
17:27:23 From Mark Anderson : Note re Otter and sensitive info (e.g. personal, health data) location of servers is unknown. Edge case, but problematic for some uses/sectors. Also don’t I note this by way of being negative about Otter, which I think is pretty neat.
17:39:26 From Mark Anderson : !! Embracing the notion of remediation (and not just as sales/marketing)
17:39:37 From Frode Hegland : for me VR simple means without visual limitations. Potentially.
17:44:22 From Alan Laidlaw : nice jacket, Brandel!
17:44:35 From Frode Hegland : did you get it in London?!
17:47:04 From Peter Wasilko : The pen was my second favorite Apple giveaway after a set of red shoelaces with little black Apple logos on them.
17:47:41 From Fabien : always happy to try to give hands on experience that can help to build
17:53:23 From Mark Anderson : https://www.c82.net/euclid/
17:53:33 From Frode Hegland : (we know that part…)
17:54:51 From Fabien : if we were to do per person or collaborative bolding of snippets we find relevant https://web.archive.org/web/20110219164036/http://www.shiftspace.org/ was a pretty interesting project (till it died 11 years ago)
17:55:05 From Frode Hegland : we can have pull out quotes!
17:55:44 From Brandel Zachernuk : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pull_quote
17:55:57 From Frode Hegland : indeed
17:56:15 From Fabien : current https://blog.medium.com/introducing-highlights-a4df69e8ed43 but not new
17:56:38 From Frode Hegland : beauty matters
17:57:26 From Fabien : I think also https://readwise.io does this too but never used it except for technical tests. Not sure how collaborative it can be.
17:59:30 From Brandel Zachernuk : I haven’t tried to use it myself but I have always been intrigued by https://web.hypothes.is highlighting
17:59:41 From Fabien : yes it’s pretty popular but I still didnt try
18:02:32 From Fabien : for the collaborative aspect the opacity (or coloring, whatever is useful) doesn’t have to be linear so there doesn’t have to be too noisy
18:02:57 From Frode Hegland : have to step away for a min but listening
18:03:01 From Fabien : only something highlighted by more than e.g 10% of the group would then become very visible
18:04:39 From Frode Hegland : (just have to buy a return ticket before sold out so dont’ want to look so clickign on the video)
18:04:56 From Alan Laidlaw : its funny, I have an ulterior motive for my highlights. I abandon books for years at a time. highlights tell me where I stopped reading or paying attention.
18:07:42 From Alan Laidlaw : https://ifyouknewmewouldyoulove.me/
18:09:18 From Frode Hegland : a tiktok speciality Brandel
18:11:18 From Frode Hegland : search in documents only on my own highlights. annotations as citations (view separately).
18:15:40 From Mark Anderson : !! I think some Ref managers do that. Part of the issue (IIRC) in this area is the lack [sic] of consistent PDF internal structure—PDF being a wrapper around a range of materials rather than a fixed text.
18:16:02 From Frode Hegland : which RM?
18:16:09 From Alan Laidlaw : I couldn’t get any of the demos to launch from my oculus browser
18:18:18 From Mark Anderson : RM? Bookends in my case.
18:18:40 From Fabien : https://hmd.link
18:19:20 From Frode Hegland : Brandel, when is the new Quest/Meta?
18:19:29 From Brandel Zachernuk : Oct 11
18:19:52 From Fabien : (brb, door)
18:22:05 From Alan Laidlaw : oh also, that site I linked to could be a great testbed for a future VR experience
18:22:28 From Fabien : new HMD doesn’t matter IMHO
18:22:38 From Alan Laidlaw : (because its interactive first, if you will)
18:22:56 From Fabien : Alan: you can pair any BT keyboard, helps a ton
18:25:23 From Fabien : not a PC… a Windows PC for WebXR :/
18:31:12 From Brandel Zachernuk : I have to drop for my performance review! Wish me luck!
18:31:27 From Fabien : Best of luck
18:33:35 From Frode Hegland : Alan, you do a session on defing the reader? OK

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