Chat : 10 October 2022


pink, calming pink, Baker-Miller pink, VR, MMOs, Homeworld, Post-it, Recursive unimetric font, total museum experience (gpt3 keywords)

16:19:46 From Frode Hegland : pink
16:23:05 From Brandel Zachernuk : !! Calming pink is
16:31:57 From Frode Hegland : That’s the pink!
16:34:55 From Frode Hegland : “the document needs to know the table”
16:39:49 From Brandel Zachernuk : I’m going to play with re-presenting this document for work:
16:42:02 From Fabien : treemap in Hubs but not dynamic
16:42:46 From Fabien : 3 windows, only Firefox, 12 tabs open in total including this call.
16:45:35 From Mark Anderson : !! Even if the resultant insight isn’t what we hope, it’s worth doing so we have evidence of what it looks like and why it is/isn’t as insightful as we hoped.
16:49:15 From Fabien : @Brandel curious to see the result, I’ll start by reading the paper itself (thanks for sharing) but makes me wonder how the understanding from practitioners and non practitioners evolved since.
16:55:03 From Fabien : Definitely doesnt work with food in the kitchen.
17:02:04 From Frode Hegland : how to have the Alan graph in a space and relate to its source. magic table?
17:08:38 From Frode Hegland : I do know one thing; Apple WILL constrain options for the benefit of learning how to be in the space 🙂 The game
17:11:03 From Frode Hegland : EVE online: 2D space!
17:11:37 From Brandel Zachernuk : I haven’t played Eve (scared of MMOs) but the space in Homeworld was handled really gracefully in 2.5D
17:12:48 From Fabien :
17:12:59 From Fabien :
17:16:33 From Frode Hegland : war chalking!
17:16:40 From Frode Hegland : for wifi
17:17:45 From Frode Hegland : keyboard is pretty great in VR now
17:19:25 From Alan Laidlaw :
17:22:35 From Fabien : FWIW also 3D emojis in todo somehow
17:23:35 From Alan Laidlaw : sign language too. invented organically by students at institute for deaf.
17:24:08 From Peter Wasilko : !! This piece on creating a Reverse Dictionary just surfaced, maybe we could use it to help visitors find which contributions they want to read.
17:26:10 From Alan Laidlaw : I would actually like to make the shapes from my phone and influence the vr space
17:28:02 From Fabien : I’ll look it up Alan but there is a Samsung demo on this
17:28:13 From Fabien : also my demo was mobile to VR from the crowd
17:31:38 From Peter Wasilko : !! Spatial Parsing
17:34:12 From Fabien : Alan Post-Post-it: a spatial ideation system in VR for overcoming limitations of physical Post-it notes does feature that phone interaction but while already being in VR, not outside of VR to in VR iirc
17:37:45 From Alan Laidlaw : talking about me??
17:37:54 From Peter Wasilko : !! I am re-implementing this piece in imba for use in a parsing expression grammar testbed workbench:
17:39:29 From Frode Hegland : Heard this?
17:39:43 From Frode Hegland : the whole show is just impressive. 1 man in a room with tech gear and imagination
17:41:39 From Peter Wasilko : The trick is putting a transparent editable plain text area on top of a styled representation that has the same font metrics, so I am using the Recursive unimetric font so I can style with weight and slant as well as color!
17:42:01 From Frode Hegland : why transparent? Can make it hard to read
17:43:06 From Peter Wasilko : So you can see through the editable layer and just see the syntax highlighted version whose characters are precisely lined up underneath the invisible ones you are typing.
17:43:50 From Peter Wasilko : After each keystroke is entered, the raw text gets parsed and colorized to update the visible layer in real time
17:44:55 From Peter Wasilko : With most fonts you couldn’t style with bold or italic because it would throw off the cursor position and line breaks between the two versions of the text.
17:45:34 From Peter Wasilko : But fonts like Recursive have the same width of each characters as it goes from light to extra bold and normal to italic.
17:46:33 From Peter Wasilko : The only visible elements in the top layer are the carrot and any highlighted text that is being selected.
17:46:50 From Alan Laidlaw : as metaphor for a kind of visual rep of content:
17:49:09 From Fabien : I checked a bit information geometry 12 years ago but sadly I lack the mathematical expertise to get it
17:50:02 From Fabien : Interesting way to put it.
17:51:25 From Alan Laidlaw : so experiments are good. representing the book is a question of scale. is scale essential to the experiment? if not, i’d rather get more granular, focus on article or appendex
17:51:43 From Peter Wasilko : !!
17:53:30 From Alan Laidlaw : sidenote, I love that Peter prefaces !! to his links. as I copy and paste the comments here, its very helpful to define that this following comment came from peter. so I may start using @@
17:53:45 From Frode Hegland : yes please both Fabien and Peter
17:54:54 From Mark Anderson : @alan the !! notation is work-in-progress to assist tying chat content to the video content. The !! is a srot of ‘NOW’ flag.
17:55:04 From Mark Anderson : srot → sort
18:03:06 From Brandel Zachernuk : I’ve gotta drop for a thing at 5 minutes past. This has been useful and fun!
18:03:52 From Alan Laidlaw : when hot air balloons were invented, they were all the rage for both fashion and science. And they moved our understanding of the world forward. Even so, they are not an essential part of lives today. there is no hot air balloon industrial complex. I don’t know if VR is a hot air balloon but
18:04:11 From Fabien : I have to go too but I want to clarify why Frode is very wrong.
18:07:21 From Fabien : Noted.

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