Chat : 28 Jan 2022

Video and transcript:

16:00:09 From Frode Hegland : today’s music playlist.
16:10:26 From Frode Hegland : Have you seen this? Universal Control today!
16:14:00 From Frode Hegland : It’s an Apple step to VR integration I think
16:20:03 From Mark Anderson : Language & fixity – or lack thereof. Reading “Is That A Fish in Your Ear?”
16:20:14 From Frode Hegland : Document in this context I mean something someone has chosen to make public/publish
16:20:29 From Frode Hegland : From the author though, not objetive
16:20:42 From Frode Hegland : And should be able to update for specific documents.
16:20:53 From Frode Hegland : VR can truly unleash Hypertext.
16:47:11 From Mark Anderson : Ward Cunningham noodling on adding more metadata to wikis:
16:50:04 From Mark Anderson : I’m thinking of Terry Pratchett’s ‘suitcase’ character.
16:57:42 From Mark Anderson : Love this discussion of granularity.
16:59:41 From Mark Anderson : Yuor making a (meta-)trail.
16:59:52 From Mark Anderson : You’re.
17:04:33 From Brandel Zachernuk : Google makes use of ‘bounce’ actions as a negative indicator for search results
17:10:27 From Mark Anderson : Saved query result, on a temporal axis, also has more pertinence as there may be more recent changes.
17:12:20 From Mark Anderson : Interesting metadata opportunity – does the saved ‘sculpture’ have a pattern /‘shape’ we can find elsewhere.
17:12:50 From Mark Anderson : IOW, surfacing relationships we don’t yet ‘see’.
17:14:41 From Mark Anderson : Perhaps consider a neologism for this new, expanded, document to cut free from legacy aspects of ‘document’?
17:15:20 From Frode Hegland : Yes save sculptures as well! ‘Publish’ also many rooms! But we should focus. What APIs do we expect Apple to ‘give’ us and how powerful will web tools be? ‘3 floors’ (experiment wide on roof, workrooms on main floor and basement with data plumbing)
17:32:31 From Frode Hegland : Linearity is important and hard and does not cover everything
17:35:41 From Brandel Zachernuk : Have you read Andy Matuschak’s “Why books don’t work”? It’s a neat articulation of some of the presentational tropes you’re pointing at with your critique of newspapers:
17:36:22 From Frode Hegland : Will read, know his work and he is in my book but not seen this one
17:37:49 From Brandel Zachernuk : I disagree with his conclusions (he’s looking at everything through spaced-repetition tinted lenses) but the recognition of formal concessions based on a hedged guess about what people will do with a book
17:52:02 From Frode Hegland : VM: For the long haul and how to smuggle past gatekeepers. Let’s not make perfect enemy of good. Let’s look at different data types for different aspects. (Reference means how to find the source not specific address) BibTeX style is simple: something = {this thing}
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18:13:16 From Frode Hegland : 1 min again
18:15:28 From Brandel Zachernuk : Oh I have a meeting now, thank you for this and I’ll see you all Monday!
18:15:39 From Frode Hegland : Yes, and maybe in that game!
18:15:43 From Frode Hegland : I’ll be in later today I think
18:15:44 From Frode Hegland : Bye!

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