16:05:20 From Frode Hegland : https://futuretextpublishing.com/journal/
16:07:45 From Frode Hegland : For the Journal, add dates and also where conversion came from, if Twitter and email
16:13:52 From Frode Hegland : There is also this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/r8u5xe4ex8tsalw/Statement%20of%20Intent%20for%20the%20Future%20Text%20Lab.pdf?dl=0
16:16:55 From Mark Anderson : Making some progress with Noda: https://twitter.com/mwra/status/1502048289365053448
16:17:48 From Alan : Can you post that tweet?
16:18:18 From Alan : Found it
16:18:48 From Fabien Benetou : https://twitter.com/zachernuk/status/1502005222792589313
16:19:09 From Frode Hegland : Who wants to be a part and what shall we build? Journal is a thing, now what to build and how to do it?
16:21:58 From Mark Anderson : If the journal is missing things , let me or Frode know. Omissions are not bey design. We’re trying to figure how best to ‘catch’ everything. work in progress…
16:30:26 From Frode Hegland : The Statement of Intent which has the proposed rough demo: https://www.dropbox.com/s/r8u5xe4ex8tsalw/Statement%20of%20Intent%20for%20the%20Future%20Text%20Lab.pdf?dl=0
16:31:56 From Peter Wasilko : https://arxiv.org/abs/2008.06030
16:33:36 From Fabien Benetou : CodeMirror is pretty good for customization
16:33:57 From Brandel Zachernuk : You’re not going to like where the innovation is happening…
16:33:58 From Brandel Zachernuk : I don’t know – I suspect Boris is hoping to get him disclosed
16:34:00 From Alan : I’ve been writing on this very thing, Peter. I agree.
16:34:06 From Brandel Zachernuk : Oops wrong paste
16:34:06 From Mark Anderson : I’m always surprised a presumption code editing is closely linked to general writing. Then again, if one codes, I guess not!
16:34:10 From Brandel Zachernuk : https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/visualstudio/ide/find-code-changes-and-other-history-with-codelens?view=vs-2022
16:35:06 From Brandel Zachernuk : And https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/visualstudio/modeling/map-dependencies-across-your-solutions?view=vs-2022
16:35:08 From Mark Anderson : Oh, and my last isn’t dissing those with skills i clealry lack. 🙂
16:40:26 From Peter Wasilko : I could see a new App called Coder as a VS Code alternative. Brandel’s second link looks interesting but it appears to be restricted to small set of supported languages. We should focus on creating language independent tolling, IMHO.
16:42:46 From Fabien Benetou : https://twitter.com/seflless/status/1473092198317051907
16:42:56 From Fabien Benetou : https://twitter.com/SergeiChestakov/status/1486025299691118593
16:44:25 From Peter Wasilko : I built a little testbed UI for my UI framework project to let me reconfigure my demo widget on the fly.
16:47:47 From Peter Wasilko : What works for Code works for Logical Argumentation in NL.
16:48:56 From Frode Hegland : Programmers are human too!
16:49:16 From Peter Wasilko : Bless you for that!
16:51:05 From Mark Anderson : Frode, absolutely, and unreserved apology to all if i appear to imply otherwise1
16:54:18 From Frode Hegland : 🙂
16:56:12 From Peter Wasilko : Is that an electron app?
17:03:02 From Brandel Zachernuk : No just a web page
17:03:20 From Peter Wasilko : Even better.
17:03:54 From Frode Hegland : Listening, off screen for 2 min
17:05:09 From Peter Wasilko : Could we extract changes made in VR by creating a data url to a zipped edited author file?
17:05:33 From Frode Hegland : Important issue Peter
17:05:49 From Frode Hegland : We might even have a VR written version of the same, for the reader app to parse in 2D after
17:08:21 From Peter Wasilko : The movie where the lawyer got eaten by the T-Rex an the kids were playing with the Park OS?
17:09:29 From Peter Wasilko : *and the
17:09:50 From Mark Anderson : Yes, I use DaisyDisk too.
17:10:01 From Peter Wasilko : Me too.
17:12:04 From Fabien Benetou : (remote or not) web based filesystem explorer in 3D and for VR https://twitter.com/utopiah/status/1255141803621117953
17:12:11 From Frode Hegland To Alan(privately) : How free is the next few hours for you, can we restart in an hour after this finishes? Might be slightly easier
17:12:26 From Fabien Benetou : but without a supported in VR browser, could be done via https://github.com/Igalia/wolvic/issues/22 or be purely web based for remotely accessible filesystem using e.b WebDAV.
17:12:37 From Frode Hegland To Fabien Benetou(privately) : Fabien, can I have an article on this?
17:13:54 From Fabien Benetou To Frode Hegland(privately) : yep
17:16:06 From Peter Wasilko : The days of shovel wear CD-ROMs!
17:16:18 From Peter Wasilko : *shovel-ware
17:17:26 From Peter Wasilko : It would be interesting to annotate code with audio of one describing what they are doing as they type.
17:18:33 From Peter Wasilko : I’m going to have to bow out in couple of minutes to provide Mom with transport.
17:19:03 From Brandel Zachernuk : Oh this is another reference I wanted to throw in on using pixels: http://whydontyoulove.me/deskui.html
17:21:57 From Peter Wasilko : We need a name for data + the grammar needed to parse it.
17:23:32 From Frode Hegland : Beautiful work there Brandel, multiple desktops/areas/views will be so important
17:24:34 From Peter Wasilko : It might be worthwhile to revisit the layers in HyperCard stacks.
17:24:47 From Frode Hegland : Hypercard has def been on my mind recently
17:24:51 From Mark Anderson : I love the ‘Tizzy angle’ (derives from Frank Tizzard’s name)
17:25:50 From Mark Anderson : also the same as a mariner’s “steady bearing” though at see collisions are to be avoided!
17:26:27 From Frode Hegland : Are you watching the Warship series on ITV Mark? From about 6 months ago, playing now. Interesting, partially with the view of Russia’s actions now
17:27:00 From Peter Wasilko : I have to go at the bottom of the hour.
17:27:05 From Frode Hegland : Ok
17:27:28 From Mark Anderson : Hmm. Mainly made for genpop consumption so a tad hard to watch. But, no such thing as bad PR.
17:28:45 From Alan To Frode Hegland(privately) : The book is called Gut Feelings (his popular one. Obv written a lot)
17:29:20 From Alan : Gut Feelings is the name of his popular book.
17:29:25 From Alan : One of many, obv
17:30:02 From Peter Wasilko : Bye guys!
17:30:07 From Frode Hegland : Later Peter
17:30:14 From Frode Hegland : Fabien, you are next!
17:33:17 From Mark Anderson : Yay, metadata FTW!
17:34:22 From Fabien Benetou : I’ll jump off to, heading to https://schedule.mozillafestival.org/session/MEUBFS-1 in 30min
17:34:55 From Frode Hegland : That looks interesting Fabien, please please report back, I can’t take that time tonight
17:35:09 From Frode Hegland : Maybe 15 mins Alan for social/newsletter but rest has to be family
17:38:13 From Mark Anderson : RTFD: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Text_Format_Directory
17:39:18 From Frode Hegland : VR for relationships, flatland for reading text