Chat : 28 March 2022 (Scholarcy)

Transcript: https://futuretextlab.info/2022/03/29/tr-28-march-2022-scholarcy/

16:01:47 From Frode Hegland : Hi Peter
16:02:05 From Peter Wasilko : Hi Frode! I hope I didn’t miss much.
16:02:13 From Frode Hegland : Not started yet 🙂
16:07:58 From Mark Anderson : This was the image I was showing Phil earlier. Data is in Noda.
16:14:33 From Mark Anderson : The Extended Mind: The Power of Thinking Outside the Brain https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0544947665
16:14:55 From Mark Anderson : Sorry about Amazon link — other vendors are available.
16:16:35 From Brandel Zachernuk : This is Annie’s page directly: https://anniemurphypaul.com/books/the-extended-mind/
16:17:29 From Peter Wasilko : FYI: This talk really clarifies why a lot of odd behaviors seem to manifest themselves in CSS Layouts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt1Cw4qM3Ec&t=116s
16:18:07 From Peter Wasilko : It will make web styling seem much less magical and easier to wrap your head around.
16:29:02 From Peter Wasilko : (ah, the gain on my mic input was way down — fixed it in the Sound control panel)
16:30:43 From Frode Hegland : On a citation show the ‘value’ of what is referenced. That thing about what it refers to.
16:33:25 From Mark Anderson : https://scite.ai
16:36:45 From Frode Hegland : Dave King: https://www.exaptive.com Also part of our community, thanks to Ismail
16:37:04 From Mark Anderson : http://www.davidaking.org/Publications.htm
16:37:19 From Phil Gooch : https://obsidian.md/
16:38:24 From Phil Gooch : https://www.connectedpapers.com/
16:39:24 From Phil Gooch : https://www.researchrabbit.ai/
16:43:09 From Phil Gooch : https://ref.scholarcy.com/api/
16:47:49 From Frode Hegland : It’s built in to Liquid Phil!
16:47:51 From Frode Hegland : 🙂
16:48:17 From Frode Hegland : Copy As Flow. / Copy As Flow Long
16:49:07 From Frode Hegland : (You don’t have to be honest Phil!)
16:49:08 From Frode Hegland : 🙂
16:49:20 From Frode Hegland : Influenced Doug to some extent as well
16:49:51 From Mark Anderson : https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1945/07/as-we-may-think/303881/
16:50:29 From Frode Hegland : Hey Fabien
16:51:08 From Frode Hegland : In brief, Fabien, Phil’s Scholarcy.com takes academic documents and analyses them and how they connect
16:52:09 From Frode Hegland : https://www.scholarcy.com
16:52:24 From Fabien Benetou : Hi, thanks for the clarification. I didn’t have the chance to try it. Any specific bibliometric methodology at the basis of the tool I could quickly check?
16:53:05 From Frode Hegland : Good question, feel free to ask, but it uses cite.ai for citation analysis and turns documents into ‘cards’ with key ideas etc.
16:54:41 From Fabien Benetou : I tinkered with web of science and scientometrics a little while ago and have some notes on Rescher’s https://fabien.benetou.fr/ReadingNotes/Epistemetrics but I don’t think I have any proof of concept in VR about it.
16:55:53 From Ismail Serageldin : is it CITE.AI or SCITE.AI ?
16:56:09 From Mark Anderson : https://scite.ai
16:56:21 From Frode Hegland : https://scite.ai sorry
16:56:25 From Ismail Serageldin : Thanks Mark
17:04:55 From Phil Gooch : https://www.genei.io/
17:06:26 From Peter Wasilko : @Phil have a look at https://peggyjs.org for your parsing needs.
17:06:49 From Peter Wasilko : It is idea for front end UI use
17:06:54 From Peter Wasilko : *ideal
17:07:04 From Phil Gooch : @Peter thanks, looks useful!
17:09:35 From Frode Hegland : This in VR: Interactions not just tons of lines. Brandel, Fabien, anything you’d like to show?
17:09:43 From Peter Wasilko : Also see https://ctan.org/pkg/knowledge?lang=en for some interesting ideas
17:11:14 From Peter Wasilko : Of course it is designed for linking and managing concepts in that legacy three letter document format.
17:15:30 From Brandel Zachernuk : Oh I mentioned but didn’t link, this is “As We May Think”: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1945/07/as-we-may-think/303881/
17:15:44 From Brandel Zachernuk : Wikipedia is appropriately glowing about it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/As_We_May_Think
17:21:24 From Phil Gooch : https://bib.dbvis.de/uploadedFiles/29.pdf
17:21:39 From Peter Wasilko : @Phil, can you let users know if they submit a paper a bunch of other users had also uploaded?
17:23:29 From Phil Gooch : Hi @Peter, not yet, but we are planning on doing this. Currently you can share your libraries with other users, so others can annotated them and edit them
17:24:50 From Fabien Benetou : link to example https://twitter.com/utopiah/status/1242090502775877632
17:25:19 From Fabien Benetou : and manual annotation visual example https://twitter.com/utopiah/status/1242735061881040897
17:25:34 From Frode Hegland : VR is not second life, it’s like a physical sculpture. Yes, you can read in VR! I sometimes write, using Author, on a screen from my Mac in VR. What I want is to reach behind and wide. MURAL.
17:27:42 From Peter Wasilko : @Phil, see https://www.fastcase.com for a firm doing similar enhancement of legal documents.
17:28:33 From Fabien Benetou To Frode Hegland(privately) : (oops didn’t want to record, wanted to clap, please disregard if you received a notification)
17:29:19 From Frode Hegland To Fabien Benetou(privately) : Oh ok
17:29:29 From Fabien Benetou To Frode Hegland(privately) : On VR based hand-waving prospective http://joshuamcveighschultz.com/virtual-design-workspace/ is interesting work.
17:29:37 From Fabien Benetou : On VR based hand-waving prospective http://joshuamcveighschultz.com/virtual-design-workspace/ is interesting work.
17:31:17 From Fabien Benetou : Kitchen metaphor (in French, desole…) https://www.persee.fr/doc/reso_0751-7971_1990_num_8_43_1783 being broader than it initially appears.
17:32:50 From Peter Wasilko : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numerical_taxonomy
17:34:11 From Frode Hegland : Dream: Everything in reach. Even posters on a wall which can be changed and stored and such. What if something is refuted while writing? Warn me with red pulsing glow! From static document to living dynamic knowledge object. VM
17:38:03 From Fabien Benetou : Maybe that’s a bit far fetched… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_Is_It_Like_to_Be_a_Bat%3F but maybe not. It’s a truly different experience so explaining might just not be good enough.
17:38:56 From Frode Hegland : Peter, are you still VR sceptical?
17:39:14 From Peter Wasilko : This is rather intriguing though dated: https://keithclark.co.uk/articles/css-vr/
17:39:23 From Brandel Zachernuk : Probably only peripherally related but I really like Dennett’s response to Nagel, “What it is like to be a bat”: https://ase.tufts.edu/cogstud/dennett/papers/what_is_it_like_to_be_a_bat.pdf
17:40:10 From Fabien Benetou To Frode Hegland(privately) : are we recording btw?
18:05:58 From Peter Wasilko : I am out of time, have a great week.
18:06:27 From Brandel Zachernuk : Thanks Peter, see you later!
18:07:03 From Frode Hegland : Glossary terms important and HTML from Author!!! We also have a text timeline we can work on more