Chat : 1 April 2022

Transcript: https://futuretextlab.info/2022/04/02/tr-1-april-2022/

16:15:33 From Frode Hegland: https://twitter.com/SkarredGhost/status/1509789760188993571?s=20&t=fyJVUCluv86yYBd0O5XctQ
16:42:50 From Mark Anderson : ^^ Nice.
16:50:18 From Frode Hegland : Dreaming doc, in case you want it Karl: https://www.dropbox.com/s/wx51yb4gjennhka/Deep%20Dreaming%20draft.pdf?dl=0
16:52:32 From Fabien Benetou : on embodiment and mathematics https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/feduc.2020.00147/full
16:53:06 From Fabien Benetou : on math and VR https://twitter.com/JuliaChatain/status/1435566806073217025 that prompt past discussions and on Mark’s point on the risk of trying to visualize everything
16:54:02 From Mark Anderson : Thanks for the links.
16:54:36 From Fabien Benetou : I don’t have a current review on the risk of visualization as an open question unfortunately but could be found via the references hopefully
16:55:39 From Fabien Benetou : also Wagner, R., 2019. Mathematical Abstraction as Unstable Translation Between Concrete Presentations. Philosophy of Mathematics Education Journal, 35. from https://thediverter.online/abstraction/
16:58:50 From Karl Hebenstreit Jr : A glimpse of the future through an augmented reality headset https://www.ted.com/talks/meron_gribetz_a_glimpse_of_the_future_through_an_augmented_reality_headset?language=en
17:00:19 From Frode Hegland : Doug’s demo was deciding what shopping to do on thw ay home 🙂
17:02:56 From Fabien Benetou : nope, it’s not 😉
17:03:03 From Karl Hebenstreit Jr : Mentioning spreadsheets made me think of Zigzag: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEj9vqVvHPc
17:05:09 From Frode Hegland : zigzag yes…
17:06:47 From Karl Hebenstreit Jr : Fabian’s comments about whiteboards: https://getrocketbook.com/pages/how-beacons-work
17:11:17 From Karl Hebenstreit Jr : RocketBook and ReMarkable are examples of the hybrid devices: Just examples of Artifacts: https://remarkable.com/
17:11:46 From Fabien Benetou : Karl: from VR to reMarkable https://twitter.com/utopiah/status/1250464627739279360
17:12:19 From Fabien Benetou : other way around https://twitter.com/utopiah/status/1485636499345448960
17:12:20 From Karl Hebenstreit Jr : Jeff Conklin’s “Left hand moves”. Where should we have gone in a different directions?
17:12:24 From Mark Anderson : So, in the mural data is a skein of implicit metadata!
17:13:50 From Mark Anderson : If I’m not saying it, I get Bob’s point both in terms of the actual artefact and as an abtsracted framework
17:14:24 From Mark Anderson : I don’t think working with Bob’s data is in any way antithetical to the aim of the demo.
17:14:34 From Fabien Benetou : Tinkered with RoketBook https://twitter.com/utopiah/status/1458059844133457925 , not a huge fan. Preferred the reMarkable or the Moleskine (with the Korean company it is based on). More on eink https://fabien.benetou.fr/Tools/Eink explorations
17:18:30 From Frode Hegland : useful VR is not here yet, we need to use the ‘prototypes’ to be ready for the actual, in a year or so (I strongly think)
17:23:35 From Karl Hebenstreit Jr : I have to leave, get ready for another meeting
17:23:47 From Frode Hegland : good to see you Karl
17:24:42 From Mark Anderson : Many of our data forms look back to print and as such are not necessarily helpful to moving to a new environment.
17:27:33 From Mark Anderson : My experiment taking data from Tinderbox to Brandel’s VR page for liquid via constructed JSON files injected in Liquid was a useful learning experience.
17:29:31 From Mark Anderson : Noda was sub=-par for my test but I don’t want to appear disparage the app as a whole as that would not be fair. 🙂
17:40:13 From Fabien Benetou : Journey https://twitter.com/utopiah/status/776512450904612866 https://twitter.com/utopiah/status/822908560703188992 https://twitter.com/utopiah/status/825721181336649728 https://twitter.com/utopiah/status/1105536964378456066 https://twitter.com/utopiah/status/1325176869969424385
17:41:04 From Fabien Benetou : and overall not specific to VR https://twitter.com/search?q=%40utopiah%20prototyping&src=typed_query&f=image
17:54:06 From Fabien Benetou : example linked to a simulation server https://observablehq.com/d/b92fecbba00dbe31
17:58:10 From Fabien Benetou : makes me want to link reMarkable highlights to VR too https://twitter.com/utopiah/status/1483923900828368899
18:06:41 From Fabien Benetou : I have to run away unfortunately, have a lovely weekend

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