16:01:10 From Brian Robinson : Yes, I am having technical issues. But I am listening.
16:07:33 From J Finn : Sorry, I’ve got to dive out already – hope to be back
16:07:39 From Frode Hegland : hope so!
16:09:44 From Frode Hegland : reminds me: First you do 90% of the work, then the next 90%
16:11:31 From Fabien Benetou : (that’s why I do prototyping, I don’t even try to claim I can finish anything, just start)
16:11:43 From Frode Hegland : Hah!
16:14:07 From Rafael Nepô : The “Draw and make it into a button” reminds me of this https://d23gn3985hkc32.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/An-enthusiast-defeated-the-final-boss-of-the-Elden-Ring-750×375-1.jpg
16:14:18 From Rafael Nepô : A Banana is now a controller. XD
16:15:15 From Mark Anderson (Portsmouth, UK) : New to me, but interesting: https://remarkable.com (as on screen at present)
16:15:30 From Fabien Benetou : https://github.com/osnr/TabFS
16:15:50 From Peter Wasilko : Scott Kim did something loosely related: https://scottkim.com/2020/06/07/viewpoint/
16:15:57 From Brandel Zachernuk : the basic functionality is superficially similar to Sikuli, though that’s (mostly) for a much more pedestrian usage
16:16:04 From Peter Wasilko : to the first demo that is
16:16:09 From Brandel Zachernuk : http://sikulix.com/
16:16:59 From Fabien Benetou : there a few more screen sharing tools for rM https://github.com/reHackable/awesome-reMarkable#screen-sharingstreaming I personally use reStream
16:18:38 From Fabien Benetou : no feedback loop nor programmability but I use https://mobile.twitter.com/utopiah/status/1453019635465572352 relatively often to grab links and references during other presentations
16:25:54 From Fabien Benetou : could make for a nice richier input to sciptable systems like AutoHotKey
16:26:31 From Fabien Benetou : (or KWin)
16:27:56 From Fabien Benetou : in a way it highlights the lack of pipes on GUIs…
16:39:15 From Mark Anderson (Portsmouth, UK) : Microcosm in the late 80/early 90s used to add buttons to (some) other apps. IIRC, the buttons used the otherwise ‘dead’ space in window title bars (i.e. the on in Macs with the close.open buttons). The the problem was any OS/app update broke the integration but i sense that’s easier now.
16:43:29 From Patrick Lichty : Thank you! I can only be here a half hour but I needed some provocative thought.
16:46:36 From Patrick Lichty : Great. I think there is a lot of potential in image reverse processing.
16:46:44 From Fabien Benetou : I’d argue pipping json is starting to become the norm
16:47:52 From Patrick Lichty : that makes sense.
16:48:46 From Patrick Lichty : thanks for everythinbg. I’m facilitating a panel n Tehran in 15. This has been great.
16:48:59 From Frode Hegland : good to see you Patrick!
16:50:42 From Fabien Benetou : on the IOT bit (from Brandel) I did https://twitter.com/utopiah/status/1322454523923890187 but don’t use it anymore. At some point when you use sth frequently enough remembering a global shortcut is usually better than losing screen real estate IMHO.
17:00:08 From Fabien Benetou : indirect introspection
17:02:13 From Mark Anderson (Portsmouth, UK) : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_9_from_Bell_Labs
17:02:31 From Mark Anderson (Portsmouth, UK) : https://dynamicland.org
17:12:31 From Fabien Benetou : https://twitter.com/utopiah/status/1531635470605729792
17:14:39 From Fabien Benetou : https://www.media.mit.edu/publications/sixthsense-a-wearable-gestural-interface/
17:20:21 From Frode Hegland : crzy quality
17:23:44 From David Lebow : See Masters of the Word; How media shaped history from the alphabet to the internet – William Bernstein
17:25:35 From Mark Anderson (Portsmouth, UK) : Also ‘A History of Writing’ by Stephen Roger Fischer
17:25:54 From Fabien Benetou : wisdom
17:29:26 From osnr : https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Lennart_Loevstrand/publication/221515740_User-tailorable_systems_Pressing_the_issues_with_buttons/links/5721020f08ae5454b230fbec/User-tailorable-systems-Pressing-the-issues-with-buttons.pdf
17:29:37 From osnr : “Buttons seemed to serve a stronger role than we expected in communicating between people with different programming skills. They are regularly distributed by email, but perhaps more interesting, it is not uncommon for someone to request “a button to do X”, where “X” may be something for which a button is quite definitely not the solution. We suspect that some of these requests would not be made at all if it were not possible to articuIate a putative solution in terms of something concrete and comprehensible such as a button.”
17:51:02 From Shuo Yang : Really fascinating conversation. Sorry I have to jump off. Bye everyone!
17:51:56 From B.Robinson : Truly enjoyable. Peace Everyone!
17:56:54 From Peter Wasilko : I don’t get football either, Grand Sumo is much more exciting to watch.
17:59:07 From Brandel Zachernuk : I have to go at the hour, but this has been really thrilling! Thank you for coming along and sharing!
17:59:50 From Karl Hebenstreit, Jr. : Have a meeting at the top of the hour. See you next week. Thanks Omar
17:59:56 From Frode Hegland : later Brandel!
18:00:47 From Fabien Benetou : great way to put it
18:02:53 From Mark Anderson (Portsmouth, UK) : I think the “everyone can/must code” speaks to being able to deconstruct problems into actionable steps. Calling that ‘coding’ scares many away, yet the process happens in all sorts of skills/disciplines.
18:06:20 From osnr : https://gist.github.com/melaniehoff/95ca90df7ca47761dc3d3d58fead22d4?permalink_comment_id=3636283