Chat : 8 April 2022

16:03:06 From Peter Wasilko : https://www.numena.de/project/virtual-reality-architects/
16:10:11 From Fabien Benetou : Could be useful on layout in 3D and thus VR https://github.com/pmndrs/react-three-flex
16:15:58 From Mark Anderson : Making this (lapsed) botanist happy!
16:18:15 From Adam Wern : It was Brandel first (~ present your docs at the meeting) then I (~ give us something visual!)
16:20:39 From Peter Wasilko : Typographic note, there is a bespoke font called Library Hand perfect for index cards: http://www.margoburns.com/fonts/DanaLibraryHand/
16:20:39 From Mark Anderson : Current s/w at Linnean soc is ePrints – originally designed for academic paper repositories. Chris S was one of the ePrints devs.
16:24:13 From Mark Anderson : ISTM: this initial unpack is a VR form of what we think of in textual docs as a table of contents. Trite observation but worth making this structural link
16:29:30 From Peter Wasilko : also see https://joshldavis.com/2013/05/20/the-path-to-dijkstras-handwriting/ and https://www.fonts101.com/fonts/view/Uncategorized/34398/Dijkstra
16:29:48 From Mark Anderson : Cynefin network, interview at a TED talk: https://youtu.be/_waoADNcaBU
16:29:52 From Brandel Zachernuk : There’s a lot more that can be done with the corpus, this representation is not super interesting: https://linnean-online.org/linnaean_herbarium.html
16:30:21 From Mark Anderson : FWIW the name Cynefin is Welsh and its literal translation is ‘place of our multiple habitats or belongings’
16:32:22 From Mark Anderson : I’d would be interesting to find which org(s) hold the current ‘truth’ of what Linneus started. The interlink of original and current state of objects (e.g. species) will be useful.
16:34:45 From Mark Anderson : Original terminology for the cards was, I believe, slips (as text written on slips (offcuts of expensive paper). It’s a nice term.
16:36:47 From Frode Hegland : https://www.inaturalist.org
16:38:20 From Peter Wasilko : 978-0-19-993141-5
16:38:41 From Fabien Benetou : can you please show the page Adam then
16:40:49 From Mark Anderson : Also (only in French) I have a repo for Otlet’s “Le livre sur le livre”: https://lesimpressionsnouvelles.com/catalogue/le-livre-sur-le-livre/
16:41:06 From Fabien Benetou : belive it’s somewhere on my bookshelf
16:42:43 From Mark Anderson : Can’t find my copy aTM or would show. It also got translated in a Wikibooks project (can’t find but ask if interested – included some as an annex in my thesis in case the web suff disappears.
16:43:05 From Fabien Benetou : my bad, was thinking of https://www.gallimard.fr/Catalogue/GALLIMARD/Decouvertes-Gallimard/Decouvertes-Gallimard/Histoire/Histoire-du-livre
16:43:23 From Fabien Benetou : my bad about about my bad, is https://www.gallimard.fr/Catalogue/GALLIMARD/Decouvertes-Gallimard/Decouvertes-Gallimard-Hors-serie/Histoire-du-livre#
16:44:15 From Mark Anderson : Aha: https://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Traité_de_documentation
16:44:59 From Peter Wasilko : https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/o/linnean-society-of-london-9455919316
16:46:38 From Fabien Benetou : phylogenetical analysis
16:46:45 From Peter Wasilko : https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjgrqb354T3AhWGjYkEHZBtC6wQwqsBegQIAxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D4N5-b-x7ggQ&usg=AOvVaw0lEhdSri1bVYOxr_u1l4mM
16:46:55 From Frode Hegland : “phylogenetical analysis” indee
16:46:57 From Frode Hegland : indeed
16:47:03 From Peter Wasilko : https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjgrqb354T3AhWGjYkEHZBtC6wQwqsBegQIChAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DL6ZMtdOuZNo&usg=AOvVaw3-n0XMS7eDl2zFN_sRbESm
16:47:21 From Peter Wasilko : There are links to videos of two relevant society talks!
16:47:48 From Fabien Benetou : learning how to build these https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_XMKmFQ_w8
16:49:18 From Peter Wasilko : Multi-Modal would be optimal, grab or click and item then type to express what you want done with it; then enter a query to update a new visualization, and grab an item in it.
16:49:29 From Peter Wasilko : *or click an item
16:50:20 From Frode Hegland : (save and share view spec plus address)
16:51:15 From Peter Wasilko : Exactly!
16:52:03 From Mark Anderson : Intelligent design?
16:53:53 From Fabien Benetou : https://twitter.com/utopiah/status/1106238075095654402/ based on WikiData, I’ll try to find the URL back
16:54:07 From Fabien Benetou : pointing it to the WikiData on Lineus should work quite well
16:54:23 From Mark Anderson : Feels like the map in 5th Element where LeeLou is finding planet Flosten Paradise “dot…, dot…”
16:54:31 From Frode Hegland : yes!
16:55:44 From Peter Wasilko : Anyone else want to negotiate?
16:58:43 From Peter Wasilko : There is a architecture book on Bond Villains digs.
16:59:01 From Mark Anderson : 🙂
16:59:19 From Peter Wasilko : https://trapublishing.com/products/lair
17:03:24 From Peter Wasilko : It is time for me to head out. I don’t want to keep Mom waiting.
17:03:29 From Peter Wasilko : Have a great weekend.
17:06:49 From Fabien Benetou : kind of still works https://archivrist.glitch.me/ but WikiData data ontology changed quite a bit since so I should do some additional filtering.
17:12:41 From Frode Hegland : Can we make this toggle in to type text? https://www.researchgate.net/publication/221824508_Natural_History_and_Information_Overload_The_Case_of_Linnaeus/figures
17:13:28 From Mark Anderson : So, co-presence in a different way.
17:16:55 From Fabien Benetou : Hello XR I believe
17:17:09 From Fabien Benetou : https://mixedreality.mozilla.org/hello-webxr/
17:21:17 From Mark Anderson : I wrote up my experiment in Noda in case it is of use: https://www.shoantel.com/proj/noda/Noda.html
17:24:10 From Adam Wern : A Timelapse of Linnean Slips appearing in larger pattern
17:27:17 From Frode Hegland : atoms, as presented by
17:32:11 From Fabien Benetou : https://10k.systems/
17:37:03 From Brandel Zachernuk : Reminiscent of the development of the periodic table as a scientific artifact in itself, distinct from all of its contents
17:38:35 From Frode Hegland : Liquid style to change where you are. Zoom to whose presentation?
17:43:42 From Frode Hegland : https://www.dropbox.com/s/dkvna9pd0yw0ek8/DSC08655.jpg?dl=0
17:44:50 From Frode Hegland : and https://www.dropbox.com/s/zz1aqla2yspax5a/DSC08648.jpg?dl=0
17:56:08 From Brandel Zachernuk : The small/far away issue is something that nearly no-one has a good way of explaining – this is the least-worst framing so far: https://www.ryanhinojosa.com/2018/01/08/device-independent/
17:56:37 From Mark Anderson : Thanks. I certainly don’t have an answer .
17:57:06 From Mark Anderson : Though … Father Ted had some sense of it.
17:57:17 From Frode Hegland : tell me more Mark!
17:57:43 From Mark Anderson : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMiKyfd6hA0
17:57:59 From Frode Hegland : perfect Mark
18:01:58 From Mark Anderson : ‘Lapsed’ as in a did a BSc in botany back in ‘81. In a previous *century* 😮

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