Video: https://youtu.be/L7WTqpVwvQE
16:00:07 From Frode Hegland : https://youtu.be/9wbZEPrFd10?si=96YmNolPJzU0idYk
16:30:06 From Fabien Benetou : thanks for the catch up!
16:30:38 From Peter Wasilko To Frode Hegland(privately) : My draft is about 3,000 words so far.
16:33:35 From Frode Hegland : TOOL FOR THOUGHT code control…
16:39:02 From Fabien Benetou : here is why https://aesthetics.fandom.com/wiki/Vaporwave
16:40:01 From Fabien Benetou : https://aesthetics.fandom.com/wiki/Synthwave also
Key motifs
Neon, wireframe landscapes, sunsets and dusk, chrome, ’80s sports cars
Key colours
Magenta, pink, blue, purple, cyan, black, red, orange
16:41:35 From Mark Anderson : Wasn’t purple also a regal colour (historically) which echoes as implying (high) status and richness.
16:41:43 From Frode Hegland : Reacted to “Wasn’t purple also a…” with 👍
16:41:52 From Peter Wasilko : The Roman’s love it for high ranking Togas.
16:42:02 From Mark Anderson : Reacted to “The Roman’s love it …” with 👍🏻
16:43:45 From Frode Hegland : https://thefutureoftext.org/2022/09/19/vr/
16:44:15 From Rob Swigart : It is secreted by several species of predatory sea snails in the family Muricidae, rock snails originally known by the name ‘Murex’. In ancient times, extracting this dye involved tens of thousands of snails and substantial labor, and as a result, the dye was highly valued.
16:44:59 From Frode Hegland : Reacted to “It is secreted by se…” with 👍
16:46:54 From Frode Hegland : F word. F colour ?
16:56:37 From Mark Anderson : Does nesting need to be always-visible/hinted? This shifts the discoverability challenge to how to show/toggle marking of ‘more’ content. // Also knowing/seeing there is more, is not always followed by the need to drill into that addition.
16:58:38 From Frode Hegland : Use at start and your own mess
16:59:57 From Frode Hegland : Hide
17:01:20 From Mark Anderson : Maps/charts/graphs for exploration/thought I see as distinct for their use for display/sharing.
17:01:46 From Frode Hegland : fromamp
17:01:56 From Frode Hegland : From map to glossary
17:03:48 From Peter Wasilko : https://www.cs.umd.edu/projects/hcil/pad++/papers/unpub-95-docvis/index.html
17:04:04 From Fabien Benetou : Reacted to “https://www.cs.umd…” with 👍
17:05:02 From Fabien Benetou : hence why I did https://twitter.com/utopiah/status/1153390394215997442 to show the process leading to the final view, not just the end result
17:05:17 From Mark Anderson : Reacted to “hence why I did http…” with 👍🏻
17:06:12 From Peter Wasilko : Here is a Pad++ ZUI video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlIRYTuSv0Q
17:10:30 From Peter Wasilko : Ah, here are the HCIL papers: https://www.cs.umd.edu/hcil/jazz/learn/publications.shtml
17:11:13 From Frode Hegland : YES. Hence folded view in Author uses same font for headings in folded as document. FX. Modified sculoture
17:14:51 From Peter Wasilko : And demos: https://www.cs.umd.edu/hcil/jazz/applications/index.shtml
17:15:27 From Peter Wasilko : (Which probably need an old version of Explorer to run.)
17:20:08 From Frode Hegland : Lacuna related?
17:25:56 From Fabien Benetou : a door!
17:25:58 From Fabien Benetou : Narnia?
17:26:33 From Peter Wasilko : I was rooting for Narnia too.
17:30:05 From Fabien Benetou : hmmm might take my skates if weather is genuinely good
17:36:36 From Leon van Kammen : hyperwords / liquid info comes to mind
17:38:19 From Frode Hegland : Reacted to “hyperwords / liquid …” with ❤️
17:40:45 From Mark Anderson : We can’t answer the questions for which we have insufficient info. A challenge is, in the moment, both knowing that there is a contextual note to capture and an affordance to enable that annotation. To unpick the latter, we need a better understanding of what we needed to capture now/in the past to enable future enquiry. …
17:40:56 From Leon van Kammen : Reacted to “https://www.cs.umd…” with 👍
17:41:46 From Mark Anderson : We are perhaps too heavily accustomed to working only with the ‘finished’ state when I suspect we want access to more of the making: the uncaptured work.
17:43:16 From Fabien Benetou : yep
17:44:41 From Mark Anderson : I do think ‘stranded’ AI has much more short term use than successive waves of not General AI. I sense the former is a more tractable path to the latter.
17:45:38 From Mark Anderson : (@fabien) and the sky can be any colour you like
17:45:43 From Brandel Zachernuk : Ah it’s work for Niantic: https://twitter.com/LiquidCity_/status/1702378106273603897
17:45:44 From Fabien Benetou : Reacted to “(@fabien) and the …” with 🎉
17:48:11 From Brandel Zachernuk : https://twitter.com/keiichiban is Keiichi Matsuda
17:51:18 From Peter Wasilko : Reacted to “(@fabien) and the sk…” with 🎉
17:53:18 From Frode Hegland : https://thefutureoftext.org/symposium/
17:57:27 From Fabien Benetou : tasty mix