16:08:38 From Frode Hegland : https://thefutureoftext.org/2022/07/11/2022-symposium/
16:14:27 From Frode Hegland : https://www.macrumors.com/2022/08/15/24-years-ago-the-first-imac-went-for-sale/
16:20:10 From Mark Anderson : Do you mean the phrase “sing from the same hymn sheet?”
16:25:41 From Peter Wasilko : Do you have the spelling for the Japanese term?
16:25:46 From Frode Hegland : KJ-Ho
16:33:56 From Mark Anderson : A virtual/digital sticky (vs. paper) can more easily ‘be’ in multiple places. Paper needs manual copy.
16:34:08 From Mark Anderson : Also, superimposing link (paths)
16:38:02 From Mark Anderson : Also multiple discrete commentaries (layers?) on the same underlying notes.
16:39:24 From Frode Hegland : have you seen who will be presenting?! https://thefutureoftext.org/2022/07/11/2022-symposium/
16:44:20 From Frode Hegland : 44: Brandel saying has to be quick to add text and re-format
16:44:42 From Frode Hegland : 44: Brandel write and grow to fit
16:44:46 From Mark Anderson : I’d re-iterate the power of VR is to move the process beyond the limits of paper. So not the process but what more we can to with the arisings from the process. Subtle but important difference.
16:45:03 From Frode Hegland : (earlier Mark multiple locations)
16:45:51 From Frode Hegland : yes but that is analysis Mark, and important, what is the specific actions we want to paint?
16:46:31 From Frode Hegland : 46 Brandel recording, replay, and flexibeiligy of presentation
16:46:36 From Frode Hegland : colours of notes etc.
16:46:53 From Frode Hegland : (maybe also view on maps and timelines if appropriate)
16:47:11 From Frode Hegland : (also to take it with you outside of meeting and comment then as well)
16:47:11 From Mark Anderson : Put briefly, position our scenerio after the inital creation of the notes. What more can we now do than move the stickies on the wall/floor/whatever physical display surface.
16:47:23 From Frode Hegland : 47: cheapness of artifacts Brandel
16:47:53 From Peter Wasilko : https://www.sicpdistilled.com/section/1.1/ https://www.sicpdistilled.com/section/2-escher/
16:48:16 From Frode Hegland : 47: Peter ‘decryptable environment’ for AI/auto manipulations
16:48:35 From Peter Wasilko : scriptable
16:49:23 From Peter Wasilko : https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/applescript-the-definitive/0596005571/ch04s09.html
16:52:41 From Frode Hegland : 52 click here to go to the VR view of this part of the process
16:53:28 From Mark Anderson : 50: bob’s book of wicked problems : http://www.bobhorn.us/assets/wicked_prob_book__bob_horn-v.8.1.pdf
16:54:59 From Peter Wasilko : https://www.sconul.ac.uk/sites/default/files/documents/Scenarios_beyond_2020_ReportWV.pdf
16:55:50 From Mark Anderson : 52: my last link above is not actually the murals I worked on earlier.
16:56:48 From Peter Wasilko : https://www.sconul.ac.uk/sites/default/files/documents/LotFFinalreport.pdf
16:58:31 From Peter Wasilko : https://www.arl.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/arl-2030-scenarios-users-guide.pdf
16:58:49 From Peter Wasilko : The last few links are to future library scenarios.
17:00:00 From Peter Wasilko : And here is the grand classic: https://archive.org/details/librariesoffutur00lickuoft
17:00:17 From Peter Wasilko : JCR Licklider’s Libraries of the Future
17:01:58 From Peter Wasilko : https://blogs.lt.vt.edu/inventthefuture2020/libraries-of-the-future/
17:03:53 From Peter Wasilko : https://www.clir.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2020/02/Library-of-Future-2-20-20.pdf
17:04:38 From Brandel Zachernuk : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2i6oVykLEac&feature=youtu.be
17:06:01 From Peter Wasilko : https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Mirko-Tavosanis/publication/320142481_Libraries_linguistics_and_artificial_intelligence_J_C_R_licklider_and_the_libraries_of_the_future/links/5bf66c9f4585150b2bc8e368/Libraries-linguistics-and-artificial-intelligence-J-C-R-licklider-and-the-libraries-of-the-future.pdf
17:07:57 From Peter Wasilko : This last paper is particularly good.
17:09:47 From Peter Wasilko : The CLIR link discusses the Library 21 expo pavilion.
17:11:07 From Frode Hegland : 1:10 linking text to faces and poses
17:11:42 From Frode Hegland : “I didn’t say we should kill him” (TikTok)
17:12:01 From Frode Hegland : On the importance of context and recording and replay
17:14:08 From Frode Hegland : 1:14 keeping human value
17:14:41 From Frode Hegland : gestures to say to the system what matters and such
17:19:01 From Frode Hegland : 1;18 how to be in the space, grey out if not being dully present but listening, more detailed if desired etc.
17:23:15 From Frode Hegland : 1:23 Mark afforances of cards. what is behind it
17:25:36 From Frode Hegland : 1:25 Mark it’s crucial that in VR the space does not disappear
17:25:43 From Peter Wasilko : https://www.hayseed.net/MOO/
17:25:48 From Frode Hegland : worth highliting that can be acessed privatly as well
17:26:24 From Peter Wasilko : https://thenewstack.io/a-look-back-in-time-the-forgotten-fame-of-lambdamoo/
17:26:35 From Frode Hegland : 1:26 3 rooms: First room then action room and final product room
17:27:50 From Brandel Zachernuk : https://vimeo.com/worrydream
17:27:59 From Brandel Zachernuk : Bret Victor’s videos about augmented spaces
17:29:28 From Mark Anderson : 1:24 (not time sensitive) are there any reports on the % of an average group who can sketch with sufficient proficiency to share more than the simplest idea?
17:29:35 From Peter Wasilko : The Seeing Spaces video is really good.
17:30:06 From Mark Anderson : Point is not to advantage/disadvantage. Rather it might shows the degree of augmentation is needed to back-fill the gap.
17:30:34 From Peter Wasilko : I have to bow out at the bottom of the hour to provide Mum with transport.
17:30:35 From Frode Hegland : 1:30 same info diff envioroiments
17:33:27 From Peter Wasilko : We need “Spatial Integrity Constrains!”
17:33:38 From Peter Wasilko : *Constraints
17:36:44 From Frode Hegland : you are quite weird Brandel…
17:36:48 From Frode Hegland : (not a bad thing)
17:55:40 From Frode Hegland : Brandel, do you have acess to take a visual scan of a room and turn it into w VR room?
18:00:55 From Brandel Zachernuk : Alban Denoyel has a lot of capturing tips https://twitter.com/albn
18:00:59 From Brandel Zachernuk : https://twitter.com/albn